It’s Friday night time at London’s Roundhouse. Skunk Anansie have simply launched into raging 2022 polemic Piggy, and Pores and skin is crusing throughout the gang on a large pig. A snarling, nose-ringed inflatable that will frighten the hell out of Pink Floyd’s porcine mascot, it’s a darkly sardonic steed for the lady we’re transfixed by. It’s exhausting to not smile when she does. An otherworldly however very likeable punk queen at 57, she soars effortlessly by means of operatic notes, honeyed heat and hard-rocker grit, flanked on stage by three of her finest pals, all of them putting powerhouses in their very own proper.
For all of the Orwellian visible swings and political punches (far-right extremism, social media trolls, inequality…), a Skunk Anansie present is among the most enjoyable rock-geared nights out you’ll be able to have. It’s additionally one of the pleasant. Mixing 90s megahits like Weak and Charlie Large Potato with fiery, fat-free new materials (extra on that shortly), they draw a much more various viewers than most of their friends. There are males, girls, youngsters, a couple of kids with dad and mom. On the entrance stands a man together with his hair in two monumental pink spikes – old-school Camden punk stylish at its least ironic – dancing with punters who look nothing like him.
“I noticed him singing alongside to songs like Hedonism,” guitarist Ace tells us within the pub the following day. “You wouldn’t affiliate that with that type of aggressive-looking loopy punk. However he’s singing a ballad and looking out like he’s going to cry there.”
Even within the 90s, Skunk Anansie all the time had vary of their political messaging. Boiling rage got here with sing-your-heart-out choruses. Sharp, humorous specificity was their secret weapon in anthems like Little Child Swastikkka, the place incisive imagery met the traditional rock, punk, soul, jazz, pop and extra of the band’s collective DNA.
However again to the Roundhouse, and the sound of a crash. Pores and skin has fallen off the pig. Amazingly, she will get proper again up – half rodeo champion, half high-fashion catwalk mannequin. Quickly after, altering gears once more, she instigates an all-female moshpit, pogoing within the thick of it along with her followers. The temper is giddy. It’s political, however everybody right here is having one of the best time, together with the band.
“It’s enjoyable to play these songs,” bassist Cass Lewis presents. “We’ve got enjoyable taking part in Swastikkka and Sure It’s Fucking Political. These are our banging songs. We’re not taking part in songs like Rage In opposition to The Machine. Our anger is combined up with all of the enjoyable that we now have after we play collectively.”
Skunk Anansie haven’t been idle within the 9 years since their final album, however nor have they been the power of freshness they was. Between ‘biggest hits’ exhibits, Twenty fifth-anniversary exercise, Pores and skin’s look on The Masked Singer and some singles, they started to really feel rooted of their previous. Behind the scenes, the retirement of their longtime supervisor shone a light-weight on questions on their future – the reality about what they have been in peril of turning into.
“It was a really gradual descent, nevertheless it was a descent,” Pores and skin displays. “We have been going within the fallacious course. I felt that for a couple of years.”
“We wanted to reinvent,” drummer Mark Richardson agrees. “We wanted to go someplace totally different. We stood on prime of the cliff, held fingers and jumped into the clouds.”
Recorded in Los Angeles with maverick producer/TV On The Radio mastermind David Sitek, new album The Painful Fact is the results of that leap. A taught, fearless number of bangers, ballads and incisive statements, it’s the sound of a band absolutely invested in pushing themselves. The music of a gaggle who’ve confronted big life modifications, ever-shifting trade sands and an in depth brush with demise. Correct songs at a profession juncture when so many overlook easy methods to write them.
“I wished to make this sort of album for a really very long time,” Pores and skin says, “and for one cause or another excuse issues simply didn’t occur the way in which we wished it to. After which this was an opportunity.”

The subsequent afternoon – a couple of hours forward of their second sold-out night time on the Roundhouse – we’re in Skunk Anansie’s dressing room. Generations of the Skunk household gathered right here final night time over gin, infants and post-gig highs. All 4 within the band are dad and mom. Cass lately turned a grandfather. Now, as Pores and skin extends a hand, we are able to hear Mark’s teething seven-month-old together with his spouse within the subsequent room. At one level Cass pops in to verify on plans for Ace’s birthday tomorrow. There’s consolation between them, undercut by the emotional whirlwinds of parenthood and touring life. You’ll be able to see it within the stability they strike on stage between politics and party-friendly heat.
“I feel individuals suck within the message higher in case you encompass it with a bit of contact of cheekiness and a way of humour,” Pores and skin muses, all eye contact and enunciation. “Sure, you’ll be able to write songs that say ‘fascism is unhealthy! We don’t like fascism, boo boo booooo!’ Nevertheless it’s so clichéd. So, for us, it’s higher to attempt to be intelligent about it, as a result of then it will get to individuals otherwise. And on the finish of the day, individuals have come to a fucking gig, proper? They need to get pleasure from themselves. They don’t thoughts a little bit of messaging so long as it’s not each track all through.”
Cosy however fashion-alert in voluminous denim and a woolly hat, with dyed blond eyebrows and a black manicure, Pores and skin has the laser focus of somebody who’s been misinterpreted all her life – and now is aware of exactly what she desires to say. Years of expertise throughout the complete media spectrum have put an eloquent depth in her solutions. Nobody fucks along with her when she dives into crowds. However there’s a softness to her, too. She might be very humorous. She breaks right into a smile on sure topics (Nina Simone, her daughter’s favorite Disney characters, the humour in her lyrics on The Painful Fact). She pokes enjoyable lovingly at her bandmates, as they do along with her, however you sense that they’d all take a bullet for each other.
“We’re fortunate, as a result of these are genuinely three of the nicest males I’ve recognized on the planet,” she says, nodding to Mark as he joins us – all inked gym-honed arms, spiked silver hair, and a mild method that belies his thunderous efficiency behind the equipment. “You recognize, I’ve had these guys be across the gayest issues on the planet, and it’s identical to, no vibes or no matter. However they’re genuinely superb individuals, and so they’re actually totally different from one another.”
Up the street on the Pembroke Fort pub, the opposite half of Skunk Anansie benefit from the solar over gin and tonic (Ace) and nachos with a pint for a late breakfast (Cass). They’re straightforward, pleasant firm. Ace’s youth have been spent within the bars round Camden Market, so that is very a lot house turf.
“And when Skunk first received going, all of us went to Camden to purchase garments,” he remembers. “Barely totally different story for Pores and skin now, her garments don’t come from Camden, all of them come from Gucci to Camden, or no matter.”
North London lifers who nonetheless dwell domestically, Ace and Cass grew up in the identical file store in Queensway. Cass (born Richard Lewis) purchased his first album there: Invoice Haley & The Comets’ Rock Round The Clock, not what you may count on from the slinky Funkadelic grooviness of his bass strains right now. “And I purchased Elvis Presley,” he provides, “and my first pop album was David Essex.”
Imbued with a brightened disposition following an in depth name with most cancers, Cass is probably the most naturally sociable of the group. When Pores and skin wanted a wingman to go to the Jean-Paul Gaultier workplaces lately (she’s had a protracted relationship with the French trend home), she took him.
“I’m like: ‘I’m taking Cass, as a result of he’ll simply appeal all the women,’” she says later. “And that’s precisely what occurred. As a result of I is usually a bit shy in these sorts of conditions, [with] posh issues and posh individuals.”
She pauses with a realizing grin. “However then he made me go along with him to Chanel to get a gift for his girlfriend. As a result of I understand how to do this, I do know which purse, I’m like: ‘Yeah, don’t get your cash out right here…’”
For Ace (Martin Kent on his passport), it was all about punk at first. The guitarist picked up albums by The Stranglers and The Dickies, till he found Black Sabbath and traded all his punk data for a Sabbath double compilation. As an grownup, he’s translated that thirst for newness into totally different roles – educating, writing columns for Guitarist journal and beginning a music faculty in Italy. At the moment head of trade partnerships and enterprise growth at London’s ICMP (Institute Of Modern Music Efficiency), he’s very a lot the ‘enterprise head’ in Skunk Anansie. It’s a job he wears naturally. It’s straightforward to image him working with younger individuals.
“I like being surrounded by younger, vibrant, inventive people,” he enthuses, beaming. “There’s such a various combine of individuals at these locations, it’s superb. There’s power there on a regular basis, inventive power, which is extra so than you get off the older, jaded bands.”
Experiences like these (Mark additionally has a educating background, and Pores and skin mentors college students at NYU’s Clive Davis Institute) served them effectively when it got here to recording The Painful Fact with David Sitek. Identified mainly for his function in alt.rockers TV On The Radio – he additionally has manufacturing and remix credit for 9 Inch Nails, Weezer, Steven Wilson and plenty extra – Sitek was additionally an enormous Skunk Anansie fan. Throughout periods at his studio in LA, he hauled them firmly exterior their consolation zone. Out went their riff-based roots, in favour of a lyric-first method, with ample house for experiments and left-field touches. Sturdy choruses have been key. All of them agree it was precisely what they wanted.
“It was like respiration new life into us,” Cass remembers, “simply having somebody with a very totally different method, who deconstructed what we usually do.”
“I name it simplistic insanity,” Ace causes. “Simplistic in the truth that it’s actually fundamental in sure methods, and it’s all analogue sounds. Nevertheless it’s full insanity. Once you take heed to An Artist Is An Artist, it’s like: ‘What’s that association? It’s fucking insane.’ After which Misplaced and Discovered, that’s a extremely weird association, identical with Animal. However we did what felt good, not questioning it. So once I got here to be taught the file, I used to be like: ‘That is fairly bizarre…’”
And but for all its curveballs and fewer guitars, The Painful Fact rocks exhausting. Solos are all of the extra highly effective for his or her sparing deployment. Groove and melody are the core drivers all through, lending a sensual heartbeat to the entire file. It doesn’t sound like a band doubting their future, regardless of notions on the contrary after their longtime supervisor retired. When that occurred, Pores and skin suggests, there have been assumptions inside their camp. Specifically that Skunk Anansie would do an enormous farewell enviornment tour, make a ton of money and name it a day.
“It was nearly determined for us,” she says. “Nevertheless it’s type of like: ‘Effectively, nobody truly requested us!’ And when the 4 of us truly sat down and requested ourselves, we have been like: ‘Completely not. Let’s make a brand new album.’”

United of their resolve, Skunk Anansie knew the place they wanted to go. There was a farmhouse in Devon that turned obtainable. Stunning countryside. Sheep for neighbours. No cellphone sign. No distractions. They packed their baggage and headed there. Over the course of 4 periods on this distant idyll, they wrote songs that turned the nucleus of The Painful Fact. They talked frankly about their lives. Cass walked his canine within the fields. Pores and skin cooked everybody fry-ups for breakfast. For the singer it was a welcome echo of her newfound home bliss in America; she and her spouse have a home in upstate New York, with a lake the place their daughter discovered to swim.
Instantly, An Artist Is An Artist, a razor-sharp assault on the neanderthal lows of social media feedback, was the track to beat. Now the album’s angular however fiercely hooky opening monitor, full with an unprecedented avant-jazz sax solo, it set the bar for this new Skunk Anansie period.
“It’s a press release of intent, isn’t it?” says Mark. “Like: ‘This album is totally different.’ I imply, taking into consideration [that] we’ve been a band of three a long time that’s constantly taken the piss out of saxophone and hated on it lots, after which on Artist it simply sounds so excellent.”
“And that was exhibiting off,” Pores and skin acknowledges, of the track’s good, climactic lyrical assault. “Like, how ridiculous can I get? It’s the center eight. It’s the fucking shining a part of the track. I’ve received to be a intelligent bitch, have some phrase play in there.”
Taken to new, biting extremes in LA with Sitek, firecracker moments like this sit naturally alongside contrasting moods elsewhere. From the sultry R&B of Fell In Love to bittersweet get together anthem Cheers and the bass-heavy thump of Animal, it speaks on a common degree even the place it’s rooted in Pores and skin’s personal expertise.
“So long as you’re not making an attempt to embody the ‘sentiment of a era’ or some bullshit,” she says. “Simply be actual. I imply, I absolutely count on to get in hassle for a few of these lyrics.”
One potent instance of that is the downbeat, smoky ballad Disgrace. There are echoes of her upbringing there, which concerned shifting between Air Pressure bases, dwelling above her grandfather’s membership in Brixton, struggling to seek out her place. Private ghosts that, with out the backing of her bandmates, would have been tougher to face.
“’I received the love from my mom, the ache from my dad, the blame from my brother, disgrace I received it unhealthy’,” she recites, a stillness coming over her. “I mentioned to the blokes: ‘I’ve received to alter this bit, I’m simply gonna get an excessive amount of hassle.” They usually have been like: ‘Do what you gotta do, woman.’”
“It’s your reality, isn’t it?” Mark shrugs merely. “Nevertheless it modified the way in which we wrote completely, as a result of earlier than that we’d had all these riffs and all these items, and we have been like: “When are you gonna do lyrics, Skinny?!’ [Her actual nickname, changed to Skin because it sounded cooler.] And it’s simply too overwhelming. It’s an excessive amount of. The place’s the inspiration? And what we’ve discovered is we have to make house for that to occur [first].”
Watching him and Pores and skin, ostensibly two very totally different individuals, there’s a quiet however companionable understanding between them. The fitness-focused half of the band, given their respective roles. He’s a fitness center and HIIT man, she does yoga and weight coaching. He’s been sober for 21 years. She’s acutely acutely aware of sustaining her efficiency powers long-term.
“I noticed Diana Ross twice final yr, and he or she’s fucking shit,” Pores and skin exclaims. “She seems unbelievable and it’s Diana Ross, however the voice is gone, and he or she makes zero effort to sing something correctly. However I noticed Dolly Parton – excellent. I need to be like that. I need to be like Tom Jones and nonetheless be capable to sing at eighty.”
For the entire band, that consciousness of our mortality shot up following Cass’s stage 4 most cancers analysis, whereas The Painful Fact was within the works. Punishing stretches of chemotherapy ensued. For some time the road between life and demise appeared skinny. Then sooner or later Pores and skin’s daughter informed her mom:
“Uncle Cass isn’t sick any extra”. Extremely, it turned out to be true. He declined the choice of stem-cell remedy and as a substitute went to LA to complete the file with the band.
“I really feel actually sturdy, I really feel unbelievable,” he tells us within the pub right now. “Even once I went to LA to complete the album, you could possibly see my pores and skin, it’s all blotchy and patchy. However the first time I caught a chilly after being sick was on this tour! And it was lovely, as a result of one of many issues that helped carry me by means of was the band, you realize. Ace used to return and see me rather a lot, and he has no concept what it meant to me.”
He breaks off. The shadow of that point hangs. There’s nothing anybody can say for a second, as they take a look at one another throughout the desk.
“It’s love,” Ace says, wiping his personal eyes. “It’s love.” There’s a pause. “I drove my automotive into the fucking kerb on the way in which again out of your place, I used to be so unhappy.” They each snort at that. “However no, it’s a spot of affection, isn’t it? We glance after one another.
“You’ll be able to’t actually clarify it,” he continues, his voice stuffed with intent, “however music is a robust power, and it’s a therapeutic power as effectively. As a result of how many individuals will we meet who say: ‘You bought me by means of that arduous time’? Day by day, I meet somebody at a gig who says that.”
“I used to take that as a right, and I don’t any extra,” Cass admits. “The primary day I went into rehearsals for this tour and I performed my bass, it was like: ‘That is what I want.’ It felt like medication.”
Again within the bowels of the Roundhouse, gearing up for soundcheck over chat about gear, their youngsters and Pores and skin’s latest ‘ABBA Voyage’ journey (“Oh my god it’s good! I wasn’t ingesting, I simply danced and sang my arse off”), the temper is familial. They’ve already been on tour for a month throughout Europe. In two weeks, Mark will reveal his personal most cancers analysis. However everybody feels recent, up for it, pleased to be right here. They’re pals – precise pals. It’s a rarer factor amongst bands, actually at this degree, than you may assume.
“It’s fucking uncommon,” Pores and skin agrees. “And we all know that as a result of we’ve toured with bands and so they’re all of their fucking separate tour bus or bitching about one another within the press. I don’t need to be in that band.’”
“We determined again then that if that is ever us, we’re going to cease,” Mark says. “As a result of what’s the purpose? Happiness, success, being… you realize, simply being pleased, that’s the purpose.”
It’s not all the time been straightforward to be in Skunk Anansie. It nonetheless isn’t typically. However with expression and efficiency like theirs, is it meant to be?
“It’s alleged to be exhausting,” Pores and skin causes. “A profession in music is just not alleged to be a simple job. It’s not one thing that everybody can do.”
The Painful Fact is out now by way of FLG Information.